Sick Fish

[Barry]

I was getting ready to treat my discus for hex as they were not eating and some had white fece's so i raised my temp to 94f and started treatment 400 to 10 gals. When i checked on them the next morning i almost died they were all huddled in a corner some on their side some quite dark. I should mention that before i raised the temp. they were scratching and darting but not very often. I immediately did a 50% water change and added salt 3 tbsp per 10 gals. And did another change 8 hours later i also lowered temp back down to 86f. Now the fiish are darting and scratching like mad not eating much and returning to a corner to hide body color is darkening fins are clamped some are head standing one holds itself on a 45 degree angle eyes are dark. Before all this happened my water parameter's were all good Temp 86f Ph 7.2 and stable nitrites nitrates ammonia all good. 50% water change was done daily. The only thing i can think is when i started to treat for flaggelates the increased temp caused a bacteria infection if some kind to accelerate. Can anyone help me with this and can anyone tell me how you can identify a gram positive or gram negative bacterial infection.

[Carol_Roberts]

Most discus bacterial infections are gram negative.
Carol

[Barry]

Thank's for the reply Carol. What med do you use for gram negative bacteria treatment. How can you tell if it's positive or negative?

[fcdiscus]

Well Gypsy, It sounds like you need to do something fast. IMO, salt at 1 tbsp per 2 gallons or even 1 per 1, and try Neomycin, a very good gram neg antibiotic. Leavetemp at 85 or 86 and keep up treatments for 6 straight days with 50% WCeveryday, and re- add salt and Meds. Frank

[Carol_Roberts]

Sounds good to me.
Carol

[Barry]

Thank's for the reply. That is what i did to get thing's started. Idid a 50% water change immediately then added salt @1tbsp per 3 gals and after that i did 50% water changes twice a day and am presently still doing this and replacing salt. I can't get neomycin were i live but can get maracyn and maracyn-2 I think Maracyn-2 is for gram negative bacterisl infection. I have maracide on hand as well and apparently can use both at same time. Don't know for sure as i have never had to use them before. What do you think?

[fcdiscus]

Maracyn-2.

[Barry]

Yes fcdiscus The med is called maracyn-two it is a product made by Mardel. Maracyn is gram positive and Maracyn-two is gram negative

[fcdiscus]

I know Gypsy- My answer was Maracyn 2! If that is the choices, I would use Maracyn2. Frank

Yeppers Frank

Miles

[Barry]

Thanks fc wasn't sure what you meant on your last post. Started maracyn-2 treatment yesterday.