skinny discus getting skinnier

i had a discus, i suspected a parasite. also one gil not moving
so put in to treatment tank and treated iwth avi verm, and prazi.
with in 2 days the gills worke,d looked more active.
ate food too.

did second dose after 1 week, then after 48 hours put back into main tank.
it chases my hand for food - but eats 1 pellet and goes back behind the wood floating on a 45 degree angle.

very thin, thinner than before not gaining weight. looks like its body is reverting back to its skeleton and just skin.

is there such a thing as too far gone?
should i discard this fish and humanely put it down?
it may suffer more?

i suspect another fish heading same direction - but that one is not as thin but getting thinner.

maybe too far gone too.

Need more info..fill out the med questionnaire to get a better diagnostic. I will say if it is gill flukes...they are extremely hard to rid. I have used prazi several times before and unfortunately...usually takes several doses to effectively work. However, it doesn't sound like time is in your favor.

If it were me..I would qt in a PP bath ...good luck..Ray

Eating, but still gets skinny is a sign of cestodes or nematodes. Prazi will treat for cestodes (tapeworms), but Vermisol/Levamisole will treat for nematodes. ;)

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DISEASE QUESTIONNAIRE


Problem

1. Please explain the problems with your fish/when and how they started

4 weeks ago.
it awas eating heaps! good appetite, but getting thinner. skeletal like. fins not flaring as usual. didnt notice much difference until one gil stoped being used. then isolated (2 weeks ago). hanging by hiding place 45 degrees floating.



2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/ white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds)


not eating much, using side fins but the dorsaland bottom fins, not being used. poop ok, standing 45 degree angle. no external sign of worms, fungus or wounds or sitz. no bloat. not darting - colour not as vibrant



3. What medications/ treatments that you have already tried and results. Include dosages and duration of treatment.

tried prazi and avi verm already, twice. gils used nw, was being more active, eating a little bit. could it just be time that is needed to recover? should i put down?



Tank/Water

4. Tank size and age, number and size of fish
fish are similarly sized, full sized to medium - 20 diascus.
tank is established with extablished filters.


5. Water change regime/ how long has tank been running/ bare bottom or gravel/ do you age your water?
water is aged - i have a total of 120 to 150% water change a week with auto water changer. has sand bottom and plants in tank.
tank is established with established filters.


6 Parameters and water source;

- temp _28 to 29____

- ph __6-6.3 ___

- ammonia reading __0__

- nitrite reading _0___

- nitrate reading _average 8 to 10 ppm. peaking 13ppm right before midday to 5pm watare change cycles. ___

- well water _resevoir, i use the same water for all my tanks. ___

- municipal water ____

7. Any new fish/plants added recently. no,

I cull these types pretty fast. Even if they're curable, recovery is slow and you'll never end up with a show quality fish. In the meantime, they could endanger the rest of your fish room.

Willie

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Originally Posted by Willie

I cull these types pretty fast. Even if they're curable, recovery is slow and you'll never end up with a show quality fish. In the meantime, they could endanger the rest of your fish room.

Willie

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Not what people want to hear, but I'm with Willie.

Good old Jim would say feed the Roses,

Hans

i agree. not worth it. sounds like he is too far gone. sorry to hear..

Possible blockage expelling dead worms. Common.
You might try putting effected discus in hospital tank with 2 tablespoons epsom salt per every ten gallons water.
Keep water level only high enough to cover top dorsal fin for 48 hours then fill the tank full for 24 hours.
May have to repeat 2 or 3 times. If head standing improves try feeding live white worms or other safe live food to put on some weight before putting back in main tank.
It doesn't always work but cheap and will make you feel good when it does.
Bill

Ill be honest.
its never pretty and its never pleasant discarding fish.
neons..sure, but when its significant like a discus - i find it hard.
but looking at this fella - seriously, im not optimistic.
really isnt in a good state.
i think i will put it down.

thanks guys.
i dont want the others endangered, already treated twice.

Sorry to hear that Henward. Its hard to make a decission like that on such beautiful fish.