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Here r some pics. U can't see anything too bad but check out the one w/the black face. Real weird:confused:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...allange011.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...lange007-1.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...allange010.jpg
That guy w/the black face has a real light body. Can't really tell in the pic. The other side of his face is normal:confused:
ps, don't laugh @ my backround. I am working on it!!!
Eileen,
The one with the dark face... one side only.. that should pass..you mentioned the fish are skittish.. "blackened "areas like that are what often happens when a fish crashes into something.
Somethings definetly making them skittish. From your last thread you mentioned that they were skittishIf you are working alot and slacking on the wcs ( which means you probably aren't in there as much)..That may help explain the skittishness.. It may have to do with the tank position, room traffic or lack thereof and lighting...Quote:
They still r skittish a bit because they r in a diff rm but i do visit as much as possible. I am gonna try to do more w/c's and then on the weekend, clean the tank. The tank does get pretty funky tho...:confused:
Healthwise...they have no sign of disease...no off colored feces , nothing but stress and appetite changes.. Usually these things come from tank conditions, water quality, lighting and tank position.
Are the challenger fish in the same room as the two other tanks that you are comparing them to?
-al
Hi Al. I sent u a pm. One fish died. I discovered him this morn when i turned on the light.:cry: The biggest one, "al" is acting funny too. I have neglected these guys because of some med probs. Anything could be wrong.
Eileen...I notice there is no prefilter sponge on the uptake. You might have food waste sitting in the filter. Clean out the filter and get a prefilter sponge on there. As much as we feed em, it doesn't take to much for extra food to get sucked up into the filter. You might have a high phosphate and nitrate issue that has curbed their appetite.
I went in the fish rm this morn and noticed something real strange about one of the challanger fish. He seemed way off color and when i looked close, he wasn't breathing. I removed him and noticed the biggest one Sabetta acting strange. I quickly set up a 10 gal and transferred him. This is what is happening. I don't no right now if he is still alive. I haven't been in there for about 5min. Here r some pics.
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...lange003-1.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...lange004-1.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...lange005-1.jpg
Without thought, i added maracyn 1&2. Then i added epsom salt. 2 tbsp / gal. I have held him straight, moved him back and forth to try and keep him breathing. Its a waiting game now.
Eileen,
That fish is bloated... either he ate too much or has a bacterial infection..
look close at the rest of the challenger fish...are they at all swollen in the abdomen.?
-al
ps...I merged all these threads
No other fish r bloated, but i have that one w/the black face on one side and real light, almost beige color bkrd w/ the dark stripes. I also see black feces. Only one tho. Didnot feed, and turnd off the lights.
Well, Sabetta died @ 10:40 somthing. Oh I have NEVER had this prob. This is overwhelming.....:cry:
here they r....:(
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...lange006-1.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...lange007-2.jpg
The others r in the tank now. I plan on removing some of the water and maybe give them a dose of epsom salt. 2 tbsp/gal. I will try that. They r in darkness now, trying to keep them calm.
Hi Eileen, I'm so sad that you are having problems, I know how heartbreaking losing even one is let along two. Are you keeping a journal of some sort? When I look back at your posts, it seems you noticed something different with them around 5/13. 5/7 they seemed fine and the pictures of them are fine. During that time you began to have heater problems. You said the tank was getting too warm and you had to turn one off. How warm was it? I know bacteria really thrive at elevated temperatures. I also know you were feeding live cbw, which you said you stopped sometime before your 5/15 posting. I don't know much about cbw except I'm afraid that my discus would eventually get a bad one and get sick. And I'm just throwing this out there for everyone to think about. Is it possible that with a period of elevated temperature in that tank, that some kind of bacteria that the cbw carries could become intestinally dangerous to the fish? Or even multiply at such a rapid rate where normally the fish could handle it, but with a rapid multiplication of it they would get sick internally? A bit of a food poisoning of the fish kind of thing? Even if you slacked off on the water changes down to 2 a week, it wouldn't kill them like this. Do you check the nitrate level right before a water change (on this 2X a week schedule) just to see what it is? And isn't the other tank on the same water change schedule and same food? I'm hoping someone can recommend a med for internal bacterial infection that you can try. Chin up hon, my fingers are crossed for you that this thing gets solved.
I did try some fbh from my lfs around this time. Its hard to put my hands on it. I have no clue as to what is going on. I think i will loose one more too. The one w/the dark face.....:(
I just did a 60% w/c. Lights out all day. Have it pretty dark in the main tank. There r 4 left. My 2 biggest ones didn't make it. I will be monoriting these guys often to check on their health and behavior. I will keep u posted. Thanks for all the support:angel:
Eileen, l am very sorry to read that you are having these problems. Trust me when l say that l feel your pain.
I hope that you can work out what the problem is soon.
I wish that l can offer you some suggestions, as this sounds a bit familuar to my saga.
Most importantly though. Look after yourself first.:):):)
Yes Joe, i no u can feel my pain. Thanks for the kind words, ur a sweetheart!
Oh man, I just saw this thread. I am so sorry!!! I do hope you find out what caused your loss. My thoughts are with you