what strain mite this be?

[joshuajames]

i bought this fish from a breeder in Columbus and he said its a golden red leopard snake.I dont see gold or red like in my golden red...
http://forum.simplydiscus.com/picture.php?albumid=241&pictureid=1849
my golden red...
http://forum.simplydiscus.com/picture.php?albumid=241&pictureid=1847

[DiscusKev]

From what I can see, it does like a golden spotted snakeskin strain. Golden leopard snakeskin would be the name I see it. However it look like a throwback (note the peppering on the discus, the black specks) as some pigeons blood strain were used to strengthen their blood line (golden genes).

PS: Are picture 1 and 2 even the same? The colour look very different.

I'm sure others shall give you some ID on that discus,

[joshuajames]

they are 2 different fish. suppose to be the same strain...just look different i guess.sorry about the bad pics.i need a new camera.thanks for comment im new to the discus.

[vera]

Most probably a cross of Pigeon blood (Marlboro or red maze etc) with Leopard or LSS hence some peppering and dark fins

[DiscusKev]

From what I can see, it does like a golden spotted snakeskin strain. Golden leopard snakeskin would be the name I see it. However it look like a throwback (note the peppering on the discus, the black specks) as some pigeons blood strain were used to strengthen their blood line (golden genes). Since it has pepper, I would presume that it holds some pigeon blood gene and with that yellow-ish base colour, golden snakeskin throwback? (it seems like it has 14 bars and fine looking pattern on the anal fin)

PS: Are picture 1 and 2 even the same? The colour look very different.

I'm sure others shall give you some ID on that discus,

Text in royal blue refers to picture number 1
Text in green refers to picture number 2
Text in sandy brown is additional information referring to picture number 1


they are 2 different fish. suppose to be the same strain...just look different i guess.sorry about the bad pics.i need a new camera.thanks for comment im new to the discus.

In that case, the story would be different. Check above.

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PS: My bad, I didn't see the text above the second picture 'my golden red', but it looks like a golden snakeskin to me...

Have fun in the new discus hobby,

[joshuajames]

rite on. whats a throw back? i have only had discus for about 2 months now so im trying to figure out as much as i can and dont have all the discus lingo down yet.my fish are thriving and eating like horses.i have a lake tifi green 3pigeons.and 2 diffrent looking golden red leopard snakes.so....keep the info coming please.thanks a million

[kaceyo]

I'd say the same. Either gold pigeon x lss cross or glss throwbacks. Lets see some pics of the others.

[joshuajames]

was told tifi grren
http://forum.simplydiscus.com/picture.php?albumid=241&pictureid=1848
pigeon-cross...something
http://forum.simplydiscus.com/picture.php?albumid=241&pictureid=1846

[joshuajames]

what is a throw back? like a mutt?...type thingy..
ps. bought pigeons off of craigs list.lol.try out fish to see if i was going to be ok with discus.and the other 3 from bill deem in columbus.real nice guy.

[DiscusKev]

Thats a colbalt blue and a very 'dirty' looking Pigeon blood.

Throwbacks are offspring from parents that do not breed true, generally from a different blood line. IE: A Blue diamond and a Red turquoise, since you won't get 100% BD or RT, the F1 offspring will be known as throwbacks as they too won't give you a stable line of strain.

[joshuajames]

dang.i have a tank full of fish that i dont have a clue what they are.lol. oh well im figuring it out tho.i have about 150 wraped up in the 6 fish i have.i figured if i do well with these i can switch my aquarium that i have at my store over to some nicer more expensive fish.i just want to make sure i have this discus thing down before the big investment.
thanks again for all the info.

[DiscusKev]

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[prolude006]

Actually I kinda like the odd fish, the colors are a bit unique. See how they turn out!!

David

[joshuajames]

thanks dave.they are very pretty fish.the other 2 pigeons i have are not as peppered as the one in the pic but i think the darker one is a nicer looking fish.i do not know much about how the standards go on discus.i like my fish and im giving them a good clean home.i hope they breed and make other little peppered throw backs.lol

[DiscusKev]

If you plan to breed them, it will take quite a few generations to clean up that pepper, your best bet is to do some selective breeding, or even better start with clean pigeon strains.

I have to admit though, even that Pigeon shown in the last post is 'dirty' I do like it in a way, but I can't describe what makes me not like it at all, overall everything has its beauty side, it just depends how you look at it.

take care,

[joshuajames]

im just playing kevin.i barely have the time to do the water changes now with the fish i have i could not imagine the work and dedication in raising fish from fry.i will take some more pics tonight of the other pigeons i have.i have a great interest in these fish though.its kinda like im addicted to these fish now.im planing on setting up a 240 gallon at my tattoo studio so i can enjoy them at work also.